Ravi Mohan's Blog

Monday, July 17, 2006

Indians can't see this blog entry

because some f##$$$%%^ ing bureaucrat in the Indian Government has mandated that ISPs block access to blogspot.

If I wanted to live under a dictatorial government that condones this crap. I'd go and live in Iran. Or North Korea.

The bureaucrats responsible (and the weaselly ISP bosses who go along) should be lined up against the nearest wall and shot! I don't pay taxes to have my freedoms taken away by you stupid bastards.

Blogger.com is still accessible so I can post stuff using the managements screens [roll eyes] but I can't read any blogs on blogpsot through my browser.

What's next? Book Burning?

Aaargh! someone give me a job in the USA (or even better, an admission into a good PhD program) please! I give up on this country!

I am fed up with the arbitrariness of life in India. For 10 years I refused to go or work abroad because I wanted to live and work in India. But I'll be damned if I support a systems that actively pits nations people against themselves (with caste based reservation - read discrimination - poised to entrench itself in the private industry) and does crazy things in the name of "national security" (like block blogspot). On one side we have the ruling Indian National Congress plus their traitorous Communist Allies and on the other we have religious fanatics led by the Bharatiya Janata Party, who are in the opposition.

I'd rather live as a janitor in a country where citizenship means something than in slowly decaying "world's largest democracy". Any "patriotism" or "national security" that is fragile enough to be destroyed by some s.o.b nutcase putting up an "anti Indian " blog on blogpsot (I offer a bet at ten to one odds that this will be the reason trotted out. Alternatively someone in the government is trying to shake down google) is not worth preserving anyway.

I used to be proud to be Indian. Now I am ashamed.

If I can't get into a decent PhD program this year I'm going to be one of the "cheap brown ill paid programmer doing crap work and desperate for a green card" types in the USA. Or get on a boat and f#%^ing ROW to the West. Anything to get out, so help me God.

Update: The Indian Government has blocked blogspot because "some terrorists are using blogs to communicate". I'm speechless.

Update: How to by pass the ban


Anonymous said...

If you truly feel ashamed of what is happenning, why don't you move against the government through the courts ? Even in US, there have been several cases where the common man has wrenched his rights back from the Government. I believe that you should raise this to the courts and fight back with all your knowledge.
The problem with India is that when ever something goes wrong, people who have the power to make a difference either stay silent or prefer to "row their way to the west". The West is still free because people don't throw in the towel so easily.It is easy to say "Why the heck should "I" do anything...i am going to vote with my feet." Thats what Indians have always been doing...sadly you too.

Anonymous said...

u can still be seen @ http://www.pkblogs.com/ravimohan

Ravi said...


There are too many assumptions (e.g. the courts in India dispense justice in a timely and efficient manner) that I don't share. A point by point rebuttal would take a lot of space so I'll just address the main point.

Paul Graham
"I admit it seems cowardly to keep quiet. When I read about the harassment to which the Scientologists subject their critics [12], or that pro-Israel groups are "compiling dossiers" on those who speak out against Israeli human rights abuses [13], or about people being sued for violating the DMCA [14], part of me wants to say, "All right, you bastards, bring it on." The problem is, there are so many things you can't say. If you said them all you'd have no time left for your real work. You'd have to turn into Noam Chomsky. [15]"

replace "say" with "fight".

More from Paul

Suppose in the future there is a movement to ban the color yellow. Proposals to paint anything yellow are denounced as "yellowist", as is anyone suspected of liking the color. People who like orange are tolerated but viewed with suspicion. Suppose you realize there is nothing wrong with yellow. If you go around saying this, you'll be denounced as a yellowist too, and you'll find yourself having a lot of arguments with anti-yellowists. If your aim in life is to rehabilitate the color yellow, that may be what you want. But if you're mostly interested in other questions, being labelled as a yellowist will just be a distraction. Argue with idiots, and you become an idiot.

Again this is a long way of saying "you should pick your fights". While I am exasperated by this bureaucratic rubbish, I don't want to waste afew years pushing a cse through the creaky Indian Legal system.

*I* think the right thing for *me* to do is leave.

Unlike you I never said what *other people* should or should not do :-)

I said *I* am leaving . You stay and Good Luck to You !

@anonymous - Thanks, I know ther are are alternate ways of seeing the blogspot blogs. Anonymizer is another option. Or just use a web based aggregator like bloglines.

The point is that no one should have to jump through hoops to view (or write) a blog.

Having said that thanks for pointing this out. I wasn't aware of pkblogs.

arun said...

Ridiculous!!!, Why our government want to expose that they are dumb ?
And its because of mumbai blasts ? God, please save our country :(

Anonymous said...

Don't come to the US of A.
In case you haven't heard - we don't want you.
Oh, our companies do, but your neighbors, the people you would live with... we don't want you.
After years of having our jobs take there out from under our oppressive government (ours) and put under an even more oppressive government (yours) we don't like you folks very much.

Stay away from here and invest in fixing your government.
Quick before we bomb yours too,

Anonymous said...

Too bad to see this sensorship insanity has hit India as well. We used to be a less fascist country.

BTW Ravi, since you have your own site, you can have Blogger publish the blog to it. You just need to configure an FTP URL and everytime you create a post, Blogger can (s)FTP the blog HTML to magicindian.com. (or a sub directory like magicindian.com/blog)

Anonymous said...

There were lots of things to be ashamed of before (the fact that exactly this happened a few months ago - they banned yahoo groups, corrupt law enforcement, judiciary, politicians, poverty, womens' rights) and there are plenty of things to be proud of even now (tech boom, bombay standing united, the perseverence of indians as a people). Why so much drama? You can make your point without it.

Anonymous said...

Hell! crap! I am really disappointed to read this!!
Why dont they cut off the whole internet, telephony, blow up roads and bridges as terrorists are using them???
I am sad!

Byron said...

@arun - Look on the bright side, at least your government isn't invading another country, destabilizing the world's primary oil producing region, bankrupting itself in an orgy of unaffordable war, entitlement, and pork debt, unbalancing the world financial system, creating a theocratic corporatist police surveillance state, and turning almost all 6 billion people on the planet against us, all in response to a terrorist attack. Just a little perspective for ya... ;)

A concerned American

Anonymous said...

Well said, Ravi. I left India some 10 years ago, and I sympathize.

Ravi said...

@anonymous (the one who asked) "why so much drama" ?

Because it is MY blog, which is a space to say what I want, in whatever fashion I want to, with whatever tone *I* think is appropriate. :-)

Sometimes I choose to be coolly rational. Sometimes dramatic. Sometimes incoherent.
Don't like it? Tough! No one is forcing you to read this.

I guess if you want consistent rationality, in an inflectionless monotone, you should go somewhere else

Having said that, of course there are good aspects to living in India. I've probably lived(and chosen to live) here longfer than you. Of course since you hide behind your anonymity, it is hard to be sure :-)

Ravi said...

@"an american" who said

"Don't come to the US of A.
In case you haven't heard - we don't want you."

I HAVE lived in America you moron, and thankfully not every American is like you!

Of course every society has its share of ignorant redneck bozos and sometimes the anonymity offorded by the internet allows them to shoot off at the mouth a little. No harm done! Your antics are entertaining.

The people who don't want *skilled* immigrants (vs illegal ones) are generally under educated fools who think they should have a guaranteed job provided by their government. We have your kind in India too. You live in a globalized world. Get used to it.

As I said, I *have* lived in America and have many American friends.

Most Americans (I've met) are fair, broad minded, *good* people. I'll take my chances with my neighbors.

Thank you for the warning though. Once my residency papers come through I'll keep a shotgun over the fireplace, in case you come knocking! :-)

Convey my regards to the Klan. And before worrying about Indian immigrants, why don't you do something useful and help your government fence of the mexican border?

And as for "we'll bomb you"? bwaaa ha ha ha haa!!

India is not Iraq my friend. Your army couldn't handle peasants with bamboo sticks in Vietnam and can't handle madmen with strapped on explosives in Iraq.

And you plan to bomb a nuclear armed India? Heh! Heh! get some practice with North Korea first maybe? That might pound some sense into you.

Dubya is Not FDR (or even Bush Sr) and your army doesn't have generals of Eisenhower's calibre any more.

In short, buzz off moron. Stay within the confines of your narrow world view and rot there.

I WILL come to America , I WILL work there and WILL "steal " a job from you. :-) Maybe even marry an American. :-) And get a citizenship and BECOME an American:-)

And ... And ... Fat chance you can do anything about it.

Ravi said...


Great blog(s)! I've just added your "science" blogs to my bloglines feed.

Anonymous said...

Ushnam Ushneena Shaanti

Anonymous said...

"Update: The Indian Government has blocked blogspot because "some terrorists are using blogs to communicate". "

They should probably ban email,phones,paper and speech. Informed sources tell me terrorists use these too

Masa'il said...

Well, Ravi, another American to weigh in here,

Yep, go on over there. (I've been in Southeast Asia myself the last few years.) With all the problems it is most evident America has, it's still a great country full of mostly really great people. As you already know. (Unless of course it breaks into civil war, gets put under sanctions, or goes bankrupt, the latter of which seems all too possible: but then, hey, your rupees should be worth a good bit, eh?)

Anyway, good luck getting to the US or any situation you're happy with. While I do wish more of us were content to stay in places with problems and help out, I also think it's really cool that we can, indeed, vote with our feet. And America always needs good folks, especially of the calibre that read Paul Graham.

(And I am happily long-term married to an Asian man, btw. Not unusual at all. It is absolutely possible you can steal a woman from "an american" as well as a job. May the best man win!)

Known said...

India has the potential to become superpower provided the long pending people issues are immediately solved. Ensuring a credible basic income guaranteed system for every one whether they work or not will bring in dignity instead of desperation for the working poor and imposing inheritance taxes will stimulate compassion instead of collusion among people living in India.

Ravi said...

@masa'il, (nice name!)

I never said I'd "steal" an American woman :-). You might want to re read the original sentence.

I have fairly strong views on "stealing" women. (See ravimohan.blogspot.com/2004/03/fowler-effect-and-thiefs-justification.html ).

I was just rubbing the xenophobe's nose in his helplessness to stop me doing what I want to do :-)

Anonymous said...

Hmmm, So "Freedom of Expression" is gone. Or rather hidden...

Wonder whats next...