- Programming Language processors in Java (or any other "newbie" book) -- 10 ideal days
- Essentials of Programming Languages -- 48 ideal days
- Lisp in Small Pieces -- 32 ideal days
- A Retargetable C Compiler : Design and Implementation -- 36 ideal days
- Advanced Compiler Design and Implementation -- 36 ideal days
Ravi Mohan's Blog
Wednesday, October 29, 2003
A long road
I just did a thought experiment on what one would need to know be a guru in programming and how long it would take.
Of course that raises the question of what it means to say someone is a guru ?
And how does one measure someone's "degree of guruhood" ?
To keep things simple,
I chose books as the unit of measurement because it is simpler to measure knowledge that way.
If a person has mastered the content of book X, where book X is one of many books
a guru has to master (remember books are being used as units of knowledge) then
he is that far ahead in being a guru.
Going further I estimated how long it would take Joe Programmer(ok ok , me) to master a book,
multiplying the number of chapters in the book with a number of " ideal days " required
to finish one chapter.
As my first topic of mastery i selected compilers .
I would expect a compiler guru to have mastered the content of (at least)
Thursday, October 09, 2003
Ruby vs Scheme vs Java ... and the winner is ..
Well the loser is java .
Some contextMartin Fowler was kind enough to send me some ruby code he had written to generate his website.
Since I didn't know anything about Ruby, I had to learn it fast in order to understand what the code was doing.
I learn best by doing. So the moment I understood a little bit of what he was trying to do , I immediately wrote it out in Scheme,
language i did know.Later I tried writing it out in java , just to see how much of a difference there really was in code size.
The java code came to about 300 lines , the ruby code had about 70 lines and the scheme code
had around 20.The scheme code "cheats" a bit bacause i used a tree walker macro i have been
working on for sometime.Since a macro "expands" at runtime, the scheme code when fully expanded would be about 50 odd lines ...Also I am sure the ruby code could be much shorter but i am a novice @ Ruby Programming !
Eclipse was Java's key advantage,
but on a code base this small, an ide is not too important.
More than "number of lines" both the scheme and ruby code were very clear and the java code had lots of casts,enumerations, iterators etc. which put a barrier between your mind and the code.
I didn't really believe it when Paul Graham said "Succinctness is Power" but
I am slowly veering around to this view, even though i still don't think macros are the best ways to provide succinctness .
If Ruby or Scheme or Lisp ever get the kind of awesome refactoring and debugging support Java gets from eclipse,software would be much more fun.
That reminds me i need to look into how exactly Eclipse plugins work .....
More importantly, I learnt a number of things from Martin's code.
First, keep it simple.Where i would have used XPATH to navigate an xml tree, Martin used simple recursive tree descent.Lesson learned == Don't use a library just because it's there.
Second, when learning a new language,it is much better to modify/otherwise extend an excellent piece of
code rather than start with "Hello World".
You get to pick up the idioms (and other "good practices" of the language )faster this way
For eg : I extended Martin's code to
use a templatefile (a series of template files actualy one for the main site layout and one each for each"document type") ,instead of directly rendering to html, mainly because I can't "think in html" ! Lazy coder that i am got my friend Manoj to whip up a template "look and feel" for me and i just point at the template from my code,
and i did this keeping a copy of Andy Hunt's ruby book at my side to clear any ruby road blocks.
Third, read read good code. Programmers, even the good ones don't read as much code as they should.I ,for one, have decided to read at least 10-25 lines of code a day, in addition to writing code daily.
This seems to be one of those blindingly amazing (in retrospect) ideas,that hit you over the head so hard you wonder how you never thought of it.
Tomorrow, i'll add an RSS feed to the blog.I need to refactor the code a lot too .
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