tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14853042.post8349612800150991106..comments2024-02-06T20:44:32.502+05:30Comments on One Man Hacking: Robotics and the future of warfareRavihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03630087669712445498noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14853042.post-51185523458012509942007-12-18T17:05:00.000+05:302007-12-18T17:05:00.000+05:30Tomorrow starts todaydamn!Tomorrow starts today<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>damn!Darius Damalakashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04596650719650364667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14853042.post-18670127077614238532007-12-17T14:35:00.000+05:302007-12-17T14:35:00.000+05:30'Trying to avoid this is like teh Pope banning the...'Trying to avoid this is like teh Pope banning the crossbow as a "cruel and devilish" weapon'<BR/><BR/>LOL! :)<BR/><BR/>'I guess Robots are just "the weapons of the day".'<BR/><BR/>I agree. Whatever keeps the money pouring in! ;)daneelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05079050476963898616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14853042.post-7409608370560949062007-12-17T14:22:00.000+05:302007-12-17T14:22:00.000+05:30"Ravi, you are a Sith Lord. :)"and the Sith don't ..."Ravi, you are a Sith Lord. :)"<BR/><BR/>and the Sith don't cry ! (sniff!).<BR/><BR/>But I really don't want to build robots dedicated to destruction, given a choice. But I am not really very dogmatic on this point.<BR/><BR/> I guess Robots are just "the weapons of the day". Trying to avoid this is like teh Pope banning the crossbow as a "cruel and devilish" weapon. The advantages over the long bow were too great to ignore.<BR/> <BR/>It is hard to make progress in robotics without accelerating the induction of robots into war. Nothing to be done about that really.Ravihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03630087669712445498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14853042.post-30404171826864181652007-12-17T14:15:00.000+05:302007-12-17T14:15:00.000+05:30"I want to be funded to do cool things too waaaaa!..."I want to be funded to do cool things too waaaaa!!!!! "<BR/><BR/>You will my friend, you will. And I can clearly see which camp you will join! :p<BR/><BR/>Ravi, you are a Sith Lord. :)daneelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05079050476963898616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14853042.post-36053769953409308822007-12-17T14:09:00.000+05:302007-12-17T14:09:00.000+05:30"I work on networked robots funded by NSF for envi..."I work on networked robots funded by NSF for environmental monitoring, early warning of microbial activities in sea etc, whereas just across the corridor, my friend works on DARPA funded legged robots which are learning to walk on rough terrain."<BR/><BR/><BR/>aaarggh!!! I am so jealous !! <BR/><BR/><BR/>I want to be funded to do cool things too . <BR/>waaaaa!!!!!<BR/><BR/>:-D :-DRavihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03630087669712445498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14853042.post-89534117326003096932007-12-17T14:05:00.000+05:302007-12-17T14:05:00.000+05:30Interesting post Ravi. It reminded me of this book...Interesting post Ravi. It reminded me of <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/How-Survive-Robot-Uprising-Defending/dp/1582345929" REL="nofollow">this book</A> :)<BR/><BR/>We often discuss about this in our lab. Although as teenagers we admired the "Terminator" and other mean bots, most of us wouldn't want robots for destruction in the real world. Yes, we are Asimovians :) However, like you pointed out, a major chunk of technological development in robotics like any other field is and will be driven by the needs of war.<BR/><BR/>The interesting fact is, the two big sources of research funding in the US are DARPA and NSF. DARPA's primary goal is obvious, whereas NSF puts in a lot of money into environmental sciences. I work on networked robots funded by NSF for environmental monitoring, early warning of microbial activities in sea etc, whereas just across the corridor, my friend works on DARPA funded legged robots which are learning to walk on rough terrain. <BR/><BR/>At the end of the day the technology is the same, whatever the application. But I agree, robots for warfare have a bigger impact on our collective imagination.daneelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05079050476963898616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14853042.post-88477528021351708842007-12-14T23:08:00.000+05:302007-12-14T23:08:00.000+05:30@anon,any day now ;-)@kiran,nice anecdote!I don't ...@anon,<BR/>any day now ;-)<BR/><BR/>@kiran,<BR/>nice anecdote!<BR/><BR/>I don't have any problems with robotics being used for war. Any technology invented by mankind gets used for war some way or the other. <BR/><BR/> I was just pointing out that most people who work in robotics seem unaware of this potential and that sruck me as a bit naive.Ravihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03630087669712445498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14853042.post-22765132403202652132007-12-14T16:05:00.000+05:302007-12-14T16:05:00.000+05:30Ravi, this was quite a useful article to understan...Ravi, this was quite a useful article to understand the scope of the current robotics systems in the military... so Thanks. <BR/><BR/>An anecdotal story that comes to my mind was being part of a graduate discussion on "healing mines" at CMU, one of the graduates was talking about his first year in the program and how at first he had thought this actually had something to do with "healing", ie. maybe mine removal from a land mine infested area etc. Very very soon he realized that this was more to do with inflicting maximum damage using the fewest mines - the mines apparently are talking to each other and relaying information from sensors etc. - F@#@%*# HELL!!!<BR/><BR/>The moral of my story is research funded by the government generally is packaged in absolutely lovely, feel-good names to fool the politicos who rarely read more than the name of the program being funded.Kiran Bellubbihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07218163941137010928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14853042.post-1861475395907495112007-12-14T07:57:00.000+05:302007-12-14T07:57:00.000+05:30Aho my friend .. Nice thoughtsI always wonder when...Aho my friend .. <BR/><BR/>Nice thoughts<BR/><BR/>I always wonder when "Cyberdyne Systems Model 101" will come knocking on my door ...<BR/><BR/>Some day soon I hope ...<BR/><BR/>Click, Click ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com